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phone and calls. >> yes, he does! he manages his brand pretty damn well. >> yeah, yeah. >> i learned that steve croft did the first obama interview as president, may have gotten cbs news' last obama interview. >> i may have. >> interesting timing. >> the ghost of mike wallace -- >> all right, wrap it up. >> -- strong. >> if it's "way too early," what time is it, joe? >> well, mika, the kids say it's morning joe. >> yes, but now it's time for "msnbc live," which is up next. have a good day! and good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour in 2016 and the race for 2016. the candidates are making final preparations for tomorrow's first democratic presidential debate. the contenders will all take the stage tomorrow night in las vegas, the first of six planned debates. but not on that stage, vice president joe biden, who's spending the weekend at home with his family, reportedly deciding whether he should get into the race.
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nbc's peter alexander is in las vegas for us this morning. and nbc's kristen welker is outside the vice president's home in greenville, delaware. peter, let's begin with you. good morning. >> reporter: hey, jose. good morning to you. welcome to las vegas. the democratic candidates, all of them, of course, but joe biden -- he is not presently a candidate -- converging on las vegas over the next 24 hours. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, they'll be putting their chips on the table. joe biden may be taking a gamble by not showing up. and this morning, president obama is defending his former secretary of state, saying while she made a mistake, there is no evidence that her private e-mail system was used to hide something or to squirrel away information. president obama speaking out on "60 minutes" about hillary clinton's e-mail controversy. >> did you know about hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server -- >> no. >> -- while she was secretary of state? >> no. >> reporter: saying why it's been, in his words, ginned up for political gain, his former secretary of state should have held herself to a higher
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standard. >> it is important for her to answer these questions to the satisfaction of the american public, and they can make their own judgment. i can tell you that this is not a situation in which america's national security was endangered. >> i did not e-mail any -- >> reporter: still, the republican party isn't letting up, debuting this new ad. and ahead of the first democratic debate tomorrow night, much of the focus is on the man who won't be on stage, but his podium's there, just in case. vice president joe biden, 2,500 miles away, spending the weekend in delaware, reportedly mulling a run with his family. president obama praising his vp but taking no position on 2016. >> i am going to let joe make that decision. >> reporter: without biden in the race, a new poll shows a majority of democrats support clinton over bernie sanders, but add biden, and that lead shrinks. fresh off another round of massive rallies on "meet the press," sanders previewed a likely criticism of clinton as a flip-flopper. >> people will have to contrast my consistency and my willingness to stand up to wall street and corporations, big
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corporations, with the secretary. >> reporter: and touted his own left-wing credentials. >> are you a capitalist? >> no. i'm a democratic socialist. >> reporter: as for the republicans, despite trump naning his front-runner status, the president doubted he would be his successor. >> i don't think he'll end up being president of the united states. >> reporter: and donald trump's been keeping score of president obama's performance on "60 minutes." this morning on "fox news," he called it terrible, sad and negative. and overnight, he tweeted the following. take a look as we put it up on your screen. he wrote, "great. everyone's saying i did much better on 60 minutes last week than president obama did. i agree!" he may have some reason to be talking like that. he is now up, according to that national poll, six points on ben carson, and he more than triples everybody else in the field. jose? >> peter alexander in las vegas, thank you. now to the east coast. i want to bring in nbc's kristen welker outside the biden home in greenville, delaware. kristen, good morning. >> reporter: hey, jose. good morning to you. well, there is broad agreement
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within the democratic party that vice president biden has to make a decision in the coming days for a couple of reasons. one, because a lot of folks feel as though this is not helping secretary clinton. as peter just pointed out, if vice president biden does get into the race, he takes away support from clinton, but also because he has a big catch-up job to do, catching up both in terms of organizing a ground game in the early voting states and also in terms of fund-raising. think about this, last quarter alone, secretary clinton and bernie sanders both raised more than $20 million. now, for the most part, jose, it was pretty quiet here outside of vice president biden's home in delaware. he did leave briefly on saturday to attend his granddaughter's cross country meet, and that is when our producer, shaquille brewster, met up with him. take a look at that exchange. >> mr. vice president, everyone wants to know, are you -- >> get out of my way, will you? >> reporter: so, the vice president having a little bit of fun and saying "get out of my way," clearly not ready to talk
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about this just yet. i spoke with one of his top supporters with the draft biden group, who says, look, at this point in time, everyone's just taking a step back. they want to give him some space to make this final decision. we do think that he is talking about this with family, friends and colleagues throughout this holiday weekend. and again, a decision expected soon but not expected before tomorrow's first democratic debate. jose. >> kristen welker, thank you very much. turkey's government says the number of dead in that bombing at a peace rally over the weekend has risen to 97 with hundreds more injured. so far, no one has claimed responsibility for the suicide bomb attack in ankara, but turkish authorities suspect either isis militants or kurdish rebels. let's go live to istanbul and our chief foreign correspondent richard engel. what's the latest? >> reporter: the government believes the prime suspect in that attack is isis, not the kurdish militant group, the pkk. the government has said that it
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is almost certain that the attack was carried out by two male suicide bombers. an investigation is under way. there are funerals being held today. there was a lot of grief in this country, a lot of anger, and many accusations, people who were killed in that attack were peace activists, they were student groups, they were people from different trade unions, opposition groups to the government, and they accuse the government of either being directly behind the attack, pursuing policies that allowed that attack to take place, or not doing enough to protect it. the government, however, has said that it is in no way responsible for that attack, it doesn't encourage violence for political gains, but this is a very sensitive political time. there are elections taking place in turkey in just three weeks, which is one of the reasons so many people who were affected by this violence are now afraid and accusing the government of either allowing the violence or maybe even of orchestrating it for political benefit ahead of the elections. >> and richard, has isis or
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anybody else taken responsibility for these attacks, because there were two, and as you say, i mean, this was a peace rally, specifically to deal with the kurds and others? >> reporter: isis hasn't taken responsibility as far as i know, but it is the kind of attack that isis has been blamed for in the past. a lot of the people who were down in ankara at this peace rally were kurds. they were calling for an end to the conflict between the turkish military and the pkk, the kurdish militant group. so, it seems very unlikely that the pkk would bomb their own supporters. and those supporters, members of the kurdish community, have been attacked by isis in the past. >> richard engel in istanbul, thank you very much. developing now, iranian state television is reporting jailed "washington post" reporter jason rezaian has been convicted following his arrest last year on charges that included spying. in a broadcast last night, a
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court's spokesperson says rezaian was found guilty but gave no other details about the verdict. "washington post" executive editor martin baron released a statement calling the verdict "an outrageous injustice" and "contemptible." i'll be speaking with the "washington post" foreign editor about all of this coming up a little bit later on in this hour. developing now in airports across the country, southwest airlines is getting back on track this morning after hundreds of flights were delayed due to technology glitches with the airline's website, mobile app and computerized check-in system. the glitches caused long delays and massive lines at a number of major airports across the country. nbc's tom costello joins me from reagan national airport. tom, good morning. things are getting back to normal there? >> reporter: yeah, this is just breaking here in the last 20, 30 minutes or so, jose. southwest airlines is today saying that their systems are operating normally nationwide. systems operating normally nationwide. the video that we have been seeing, of course, is what happened yesterday. southwest says 500 flights
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delayed yesterday as a result of this computer glitch, which really affected their ability to check people in at the airport and check their bags. people were encouraged and, in fact, are still encouraged today to print your boarding passes at home or check in at the kiosk when you get there. for some reason, that's a separate computer system than the main system that you see people using behind the desk, behind the counter there at the airport. the entire system is now supposedly back up and running normally after this massive series of delays we had yesterday. but southwest still urging people, please print your boarding passes at home. it should speed things along. so, here's a quick statement from southwest airlines and what they're telling us. they're saying that we are "expecting the technical systems that power our customer service to perform normally today. teams worked throughout the night in advance of our first departures today to ensure the smoothest operation would occur today." this is really a quick turnaround, because just a few hours ago, southwest was saying that the technical problems
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persisted. but as of about 9:00 on the east coast time, things seemed to be back up and running normally. jose? >> and tom, you're saying 500 flights affected, right? >> reporter: yeah. initially, they had said 450, and now they're saying in total it was about 500 flights delayed yesterday. no cancellations. but when you've got 500 flights delayed, then say you've got on average 150 people or so on each flight, you can see the numbers quickly add into the thousands of people who were inconvenienced yesterday. >> tom costello in washington. thank you very much. you know, there's a lot still to tell you about this morning right here on msnbc, starting with dramatic allegations by former investigator with the white house benghazi committee, now suing the committee, accusing them of targeting former secretary of state hillary clinton. plus, the video is disturbing to watch. a texas city councilman tased outside of his own home. we're going to tell you what prompted such a reaction from police. and students return to the classroom in oregon 11 days after a gunman killed nine at o
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in oregon this morning, students are returning to class at umpqua community college for the first time since a shooting killed nine people on october 1st. the campus had reopened last week, but classes were canceled. counselors have been available to students. many say going back to class is important for them to return to normalcy. an off-duty memphis police was shot to death in his own driveway, and police now say they have a suspect in custody. officer terrence alridge was getting ready to go to work sunday afternoon when the shooter opened fire. investigators have not released any details about that suspect or motive for the shooting. officer alridge was on the force for just over a year.
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he is the second memphis police officer shot to death in the past ten weeks. the former member of sergeant bowe bergdahl's platoon says he's angry about an army officer's recommendation that bergdahl be spared jail time. bergdahl accused of deserting his unit in afghanistan before he was captured by the taliban and held for five years. former colleague says bergdahl deserves life in prison. he claims several soldiers died while searching for bergdahl, although the pentagon says it has no evidence of that. and it's this baseball play for the weekend that has everyone still talking this morning. the dodgers' chase utley takes out mets shortstop tejada while breaking up the double play, but the slide actually broke tejada's leg. major league baseball suspended utley for games three and four of the series. utley is appealing. a hearing is scheduled for later today. the mets released a statement supporting the suspension. the two teams are scheduled to meet tonight in game three with the series tied at one game each.
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expect some fireworks in new york tonight. there's growing outrage in texas after a prairie view councilman was tased outside his home while he was with his friends and having a homecoming party. this dramatic video shot by an onlooker shows councilman jonathan miller as he's taken down. his friends say they are stunned. police are saying that they were justified in their actions. nbc's charles hadlock is in prairie view, texas, with the story. charles, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. we're in prairie view, texas, about an hour west of houston. this is the town where sandra bland was arrested and charged with assault. she later died in jail. last thursday night, the city councilman here, jonathan miller, was arrested for resisting arrest and interfering with police. it all happened in his front yard. police stopped there because four men were standing in the yard. they wanted to check out what was going on. the police chief says he lives in a high crime neighborhood. the councilman came out of his house to ask what was going on. he was told repeatedly by the
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officers to step back. when he refused, he was arrested. he resisted arrest. he was placed on his knees, but he would not put his hands behind his back. he was repeatedly asked to do so. he was even warned that he would be tased if he didn't. well, he didn't, and he was tased and later arrested. police say that the officers' actions were justified, but the councilman says he did not deserve to be tased or arrested. here's what he had to say. >> i don't feel like i did anything that i'm accused of. i don't feel like i should have been even detained, or you know, arrested or anything. >> we will do a complete investigation. we're looking at all the facts that are surrounding that incident to determine whether or not any of our policies were violated or that we followed proper protocol. so, we're in the process of reviewing all the information at this time. >> reporter: police chief larry johnson promises a full
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investigation. the city council will meet about this, perhaps later this week. but right now, the councilman is out of jail and everyone's just asking what happened here. they're trying to get to the bottom of exactly what happened here in prairie view, texas. back to you, jose. >> charles hadlock, thank you very much. after the break this morning, the benghazi information turns nasty with a new lawsuit filed by a former committee member. were they unfairly targeting former secretary of state hillary clinton? those shocking details are next, right here on msnbc. some cash back cards love to overcomplicate things. like limiting where you earn bonus cash back. why put up with that? but the quicksilver card from capital one likes to keep it simple. real simple. i'm talking easy like-a- walk-in-the-park, nothing-to-worry-about, man-that-feels-good simple. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. it's a simple question.
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improperly fired in june for his military service and being impartial. the committee denies the allegations. our chief political correspondent, ari melburne, is here. tell us what's going on with this case. >> basically, a brand-new set of charges that came out over the weekend in an interview on cnn and then also a draft civil complaint. i've obtained a copy of it. we're not at liberty to release the whole thing, but it out lines a series of allegations, both broad about the political independence of the committee, and narrow about this particular ex-benghazi investigator's interactions and role there. he says he was terminated as a matter of basically retaliation for one, his government military service, which if true would be illegal, and two, for the fact that he didn't want to join in basically a vendetta against hillary clinton. as you know and as nbc's kristen welker has reported just over last night, chairman trey gowdy of that committee has
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categorically denied all these charges. but what the complaint sets out is a narrative, where especially around the discovery of secretary clinton's e-mail server, the committee essentially focused completely on trying to damage her at the expense of other aspects of the investigation. jose, this former investigator says he was tasked with those other aspects. so, essentially, his mandate put him on a collision course, because he was trying to look at things other than hillary clinton. >> and we do know that he actually was terminated from the committee. we do know that he did serve in the united states armed forces, and he did take some time off. so, what is it that the committee is saying that he was fired for? >> oh, so, the committee has definitely outlined, separate from his lawsuit and before this complaint, which would be filed potentially next month in federal court. the committee said there was mishandling of classified information on his part, unauthorized assignments for interns, and basically, other political activities on his
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part, so those types of allegations flying both ways. they say he was actually the one trying to damage people politically in the administration. what i can tell you from the legal perspective here, since this is a draft federal complaint lawsuit, is a lot of this will turn on what kind of material and documentary evidence can come before a court. he said he said debate. for example, the complaint has some things that are attributed to staff leadership that would look bad but are basically just this one person's statement about them, and that can go back and forth contested. >> right. >> the big question in the suit is whether there are e-mails or other evidence that support his view that both he was retaliated and this was sort of a witch hunt against secretary clinton. >> ari well number, thank you very much. we'll of course keep a close eye on this. thanks. good seeing you. up next, the house may not be in session, but republican lawmakers still have a lot to do in terms of getting together on who their next speaker is going to be. what's going on? we'll talk with our own luke russert about where things stand
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and now to developments from capitol hill. house republicans don't seem to be taking no for an answer, at least for now, from paul ryan when it comes to john boehner's replacement as speaker of the house. >> i haven't changed my mind. my answer's still the same, and i have nothing more to say or nothing new to add. >> you've probably heard from a lot of your colleagues. >> i have, but i haven't changed my answer, and i really have nothing more to add, so i'm just going to have to leave it at that. >> nbc's luke russert is live in washington for us. good morning, luke. >> reporter: hey, good morning, jose. how are you? >> i'm all right, but i'm wondering, is paul ryan's no like a real no or a partial no
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or a nnn-maybe? >> reporter: i think it's a partial no/maybe right now. and we should also add, his spokesman, brendan buck, just tweeted this morning, along with wishing people a happy columbus day -- "before you ask, nothing has changed. i don't anticipate news this week." so, the ryan camp is sticking by their original statement, which was no, we're not interested, we'd like somebody else. however, jose, as we spoke about last week, the pressure on paul ryan is mounting. it's coming from the gop leadership, the gop establishment, as well as many rank and file members that say, look, you're our only hope. all indications that i got over the weekend in speaking to members and speaking to people close to paul ryan, is that the only way that he goes forward into this job is if it could be assured to him that conservatives will not rally and mobilize against him in a way that could be very damaging to his political -- >> and that's not -- >> correct, that's what we have to see. that's why i think ryan will actually take this week to take the temperature. a lot of these members are going to be back home in their home
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districts, going to be talking to constituents. if there is a rallying effort to get rid of ryan, similar to that of kevin mccarthy, no chance he goes forward into this. if it's a little tepid, if there are some angry members but there's still a clear pathway to 218 votes on the house floor, then the likelihood of ryan doing this becomes greater. however, he's not going to do anything that would really get him bloodied up, because he sees himself as doing a service to the party. he sees himself as sacrificing for the better good of the party. he does not want to do that and get hammered by the right for things that he feels are deeply unfair. >> and so, let's talk a little bit about that, luke, because the fact is that, you know, like last week, i had luis gutierrez, democratic congressman from illinois on the show, and he said paul ryan is the smartest, the most able republican in the caucus. so, that certainly is not helping him. the fact that he can get along with democrats on issues not necessarily a good thing in some
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people's minds. >> reporter: no, and he took a lot of heat from republicans for something called patty murray accords, which was dealing with the sequester, that thing that was put forward in 2011 after the budget talks between president obama and john boehner failed. that was real bipartisanship and late-night working hours with patty muirch, tmuirchy, democra senator of washington, and that's been the budget the government has been working under for the last two years and he took heat for that. paul ryan's willing to make deals. he was more than willing to go forward on an immigration reform package -- >> tpp. >> correct. he's talked about wanting to raise the debt limit. these are all things that conservatives look at suspiciously. now, if you go back through his budgets, we've never seen budgets that conservative in the history of the country that moved through the house and get passed, and paul ryan was the architect of those. so, the people who -- nobody
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else has even attempted to move something conservative through the house of representatives and get that passed. that was ryan. trust him. however, there are 35 or 40 that say, hey, we don't necessarily know, people are going to be suspicious of paul ryan. >> who knew there would be penal to oppose bipartisan as a concept? >> without a doubt. >> luke russert in washington, good to see you, buddy. thank you. it's been one of the hottest online companies emerging over the last few years. now a resident job website linkedin is grabbing attention. nbc's joe fryer has that story. >> reporter: it's not your parents' home office. the website for linkedin
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features ping pong tables, open lunches and beanbag chairs. >> i think there's a greater emphasis here placed on the employees' well-being. >> reporter: now linkedin has a new vacation policy called discretionary time off. it means the company no longer has a minimum or maximum amount of vacation time employees can take in a year. linkedin's vice president says it's part of a growing movement to place more focus on results and empowerment, not hours worked. several other companies have done the same, including netflix, virgin, groupon and a southern california company called zest finance. >> we see more and more companies having a policy like this, what's your reaction? >> great. ultimately, we need to build a world where workers and management trust each other, where companies make people realize that they are working to live as opposed to living to work. >> reporter: founded in 2009, douglas merrill's company has always given employees unlimited vacation without tracking their days off. >> if you were to track it, in
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some sense, we'd be sending a message that, in a sense, it isn't limited. we don't want you to take all that, come back. >> reporter: a survey shows employees take 51% of their eligible time off, so unlimited vacation may not make a huge difference. >> as much as they hear they get unlimited vacation, in the back of their minds, they think, wait a minute, if the economy turns, i don't want to be seen as not a team player, so i'm not going to take my vacation. >> reporter: in fact, some companies like kickstarter tried unlimited vacation but dumped it because employees were unsure how much time was okay to take off. zest finance's merrill says it's important for bosses to lead by example. >> and i try to model that behavior, both by taking a vacation, and by, if you're on vacation and you e-mail me, i will never answer you. >> reporter: modern-day push to vacation without limits. joe fryer, nbc news, los angeles. >> pretty unusual, huh? what do you think of that? beanbag chairs in the lobby.
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wrongful convictions. the goal, bring together prosecutors and defense attorneys to tackle a controversial problem -- what to do when the justice system fails and sends innocent people to jail. that's an issue for our own chief legal correspondent, ari melber, reporting today. hey, ari, didn't i just see you a little while ago? >> i feel like we've been on more than one story, jose. sometimes that's the case. >> and you know what? these are important stories, especially this one. >> this one is pretty interesting, and i think uplifting to a lot of people. i just got back from chicago, where i spent time with jared adams, a young man who was arrested at age 17 and convicted of a crime he says he didn't commit. he then went on to try to work and appeal his case, studying the law, teaching himself in prison. it ultimately went up to the top federal appeals court in chicago. you see it there on the screen in front of the red statue there? well, that's the 7th circuit. they overturned his conviction and let him out. i spent time with jared because he now has graduated law school, and jose, he's done something
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that no lawyer i've talked to said they've ever heard of. he is now clerking for the very court that set him free. it's a pretty remarkable turn of events for this young man. i want to play for you some sound. we talked about how the prison system works, some of the downsides in terms of who america's locking up. take a listen. >> we are locking up and throwing away some of the brightest minds that we have in this country. and there's a stigma that's being placed on people, you know who go to prison. just to think, you know, i was in prison. and now, you know, a lawyer, working for a 7th circuit judge. i didn't just take a smart appeal upon my release. so, imagine if i had to serve this 19 years in prison and not be able to contribute my perspective to society right now today. and that's what we're doing now. we may be locking up the cure to cancer, the cure to hiv.
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we may be locking up our next generation of finders and believers and doers in the united states. >> it's a pretty incredible story, jose. and he wants to do this work here, learn how to lawyer on that 7th circuit. he just took the bar and will get his results next month. >> and you're interviewing jarrett later on our air today. what's next for him? >> well, he's got this clerkship and he's got a clerkship with the federal district court. what he says he wants to do, jose, is represent people who are hurt by poverty and inequality in the system, something he felt he experienced, and he hopes to advise on re-entry programs in rehab and help shape policy, because he says even if everyone in prison doesn't have his exact story, his conviction being overturned, there are a lot of people, he says, that need a path out so they can re-enter society and be positive, positive members of society. that's part of what's animating him now. >> what an amazing story. clerking for the same court that
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set him free, you know? just the circle of life, right? ari, great seeing you. will i see you later again today on this show? >> you're excited about the theme. we have more on the benghazi story. >> we do. if you have questions for jarrett adams or ari, join them on their twitter chat today at 5:00 p.m. eastern time using #jarrettadams. "saturday night live" doesn't shy away from controversy, and this weekend was no exception, as host amy schumer took on the hot-button issue of gun control. here's nbc's natalie morales. ♪ >> reporter: in her "saturday night live" debut -- >> i'm hosting "saturday night live"! >> reporter: -- amy schumer's parody psa taking aim at gun control enthusiasts. >> guns are there. in little moments. >> reporter: the sketch immediately polarizing. piers morgan calling it brilliant, but others saying it's bad timing and not funny. >> they unique us. >> reporter: simply entitled
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"guns," the parody comes just over a week after the oregon school shootings and also on the heels of july's movie theater tragedy, where a gunman killed two and injured nine others at a louisiana screening of schumer's own movie, "train wreck." >> very personal for me. >> reporter: following the shooting, schumer calling for tighter background checks. >> no one wants to live in a country where a felon, the mentally ill, or other dangerous people can get their hands on a gun with such ease. >> ask your doctor -- >> reporter: it's an issue schumer's also targeted on her comedy central show, joking about how it's easier to get guns than birth control. >> no refills? i have to go through all this again next month? >> yep. see you then. >> can i have a gun? >> yep. >> reporter: taking on controversy with comedy. >> from first love -- [ shots ] >> new beginnings.
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wherever life takes you, guns, we're here to stay. >> that was natalie morales for us. nbc news, by the way, reached out to the nra. they had no comment. and now to a story of an iconic singer coming to national television. celia cruz was the queen of salsa in a music genre many times dominated by men. ♪ [ speaking spanish ] >> the late celia cruz, was born in havana, cuba. in 1962, she fled the cuban regime for the united states. her career continued to flourish, bringing her worldwide fame. in total, celia recorded more than 75 records. 23 of them went gold. she won several grammys and latin grammys. and tomorrow night, a soap opera
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based on her life will premiere on our sister network, telemundo. and with me now is one of the actresses who plays celia, the wonderful jamie osorio. jamie, thanks for being with me. it's so nice to see you. >> thank you for receiving us today. >> celia cruz was such an icon. what does she mean to you? >> well, she means a big tempo of how should i take my life as an actor and as a singer, you know, how to be disciplined and respectful for music and for older artists. >> this soap opera is in many ways breaking a lot of taboos, a lot of ceilings. first of all, it's showcasing afro-caribbeans as being the success story that they are, not only in the islands but in the united states, and also, it's a woman who is the real leader in this story, from beginning to end. >> yes. i'm talking about a woman who really had the pants to move to another country and start from zero again and move -- >> when she was already a huge star in cuba. >> yes. >> and throughout latin america. she left and started over again.
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>> yes. she wasn't expecting to live and not to come back. she was expecting to come back to cuba and keep singing there, but she didn't have the opportunity to come back, so she started working again. she started from zero. >> tell me what the soap opera means to you. >> well, it means a lot to me because i'm living her dream when she started. so, she wanted -- i know she wanted to be remembered not as a star but as a deep person and how disciplined and respectful she was for music. so, it's going to be a big tribute to her passion for music. >> and we learn a lot about her and about her relationship with her husband, the man she married and stayed with until the last day of her life, a man who had a different life before he met her, and yet, really focused on her. >> yes, not just that, but how she was with her family, how she developed her career. how she started as a shy girl who thought she had everything to lose and then became a
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brilliant diamond that everybody remembers. and that transition is what we're going to see, and i think you're going to enjoy it. >> now, you sing a little bit in the soap opera. i know you're a singer as well, and you've really got a promising career ahead of you. >> thank you. >> tell me what are some of the songs from celia that you prefer? >> ooh, i like -- [ speaking spanish ] that song to me means a lot. >> can you sing a little? a lot of people may not know it. >> of course. >> hold on, let's have a live singing. how about that? ♪ why don't we come back to jaimy. and why don't you sing -- >> of course. ♪ [ singing in spanish ] >> you're great. all the best to you. >> thank you. >> the soap opera, which is really unique. >> thank you. >> it's afro-caribbeans, it's women, and it's people who
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really show the incredible diversity of our culture and our society. >> latin power. >> that's tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. on telemundo it starts. thank you. i have a quick thing about celia. for me, i knew her all my life, and i moved in '96 to new york, and it was winter and i was walking down eighth avenue and i was freezing, you know, cuban-american kid in new york, first time. >> ooh. >> and all of a sudden, i see this car stop. it had black windows. they open it, and it's celia. she came out, and she said, here's my number. i know you're just getting to new york. call me, because you have a friend in new york. and i thought to myself, what artist with closed windows sees someone they know and said to the driver, stop and get out. she came out with a big wig on that she had, the big, long nails, walked out and said, "you've got a friend." that's who she was. she's an amazing woman, and i'm so glad, jaimy, that you're p y playing her. >> thank you. >> you do a great job.
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what a weekend in north korea if you're the leader of that country. we got a rare look into one of the world's most secretive countries where they celebrated the ruling communist party's 70th anniversary. nbc's bill neely is back from from north korea, joins us in beijing this morning. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. good morning, everyone. officials at the pentagon are now examining video of that
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parade for any evidence that north korea might have new or improved weapons, especially any new capability in the long-range missiles that could deliver a n nuclear warhead on to the u.s. mainland. early indications are that north korea did not display any weapons, not even the drones that people thought it might be tempted to show off. but as you'll see from these pictures, it was still quite a show. it was the biggest military parade in north korea's history, mass ranks of troops marching past the country's young leader kim jong-un. in the undisputed goose-stepping capital of the world. this is an army that still sees the united states as enemy number one. for them, this is much more than a mass demonstration of loyalty. this is a defiant message to america. their commander's message was that the u.s. policy of trying
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to stop north korea getting a nuclear weapon have failed and that america has been driven into a corner. this is a country whose people are virtually brainwashed early, drilled from 5 years old to hate america and to obey without question. this woman escaped north korea with her parents after years of indoctrination at elementary school. speaking to nbc's kate snow. >> the schoolteachers said at any moment america can try to attack us. assuring me they loved their leader like a god. kim jong-un is saluting the crowd now. this parade, of course, is all about him. showing us he is a tough guy with his finger on the nuclear trigger. the parade was a costly extravaganza in a country where
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millions live in poverty and desperate hunger. that really was extraordinary, jose. i never thought that i would come back to beijing and think i've come back to a city where there is a degree of freedom. perhaps that shows you the distance between pyongyang and this, the capital of china. >> you just said a ton right there, bill. tell me what it's like to be in that country that rarely lets people like you in there. what was it like? what did you sense, what did you smell, what did you feel when you were able to walk through there? >> reporter: well, it really was extraordinary, jose. i mean i've been in lots of repressive regimes, iran, iraq, libya, syria, and even the old soviet union before it fell. but north korea does really top them all. it is a totalitarian state, a big brother style state where you are watched all the time, where you don't question the
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regime. people don't even have the mental capacity to know how to question. they're not taught independent thinking. they're taught to be blindly obedient. this is a cult, the cult of the kims, and they do simply blindly aveil. i'll give you an example. in schools that teach english, people are taught the past, present and future tense like this. we have killed americans, we kill americans, we will kill americans. america is enemy number one and they believe america is ready to invade at any moment. there's no access to the outside world, not only in travel. there's no internet. some people have cell phones. they can only make local calls. the state is simply all pervasive. i mean we were kept in a bubble of the capital pyongyang. we got down to the metro for a quick stop down there where people were going about their business but all wearing these pin badges showing the images of the leader.
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that's what you see on the streets as well. so it was a pretty extraordinary visit and a rather uncomfortable and quite sad one, too, to the most closed, the most secretive country in the world. jose? >> a country where the rule is passed between father and son. bill neely, thank you very much. much more ahead next on msnbc. dramatic new allegations from a former investigator with the house benghazi committee. he says they were intentionally targeting former secretary of state hillary clinton, plus we're going to get an update from reagan national airport on ot glitch that caused hundreds of delays for southwest airlines. things are starting to get back to normal today. i'll be joined by boxing legend manny pacqaoi. he's got a lot going on. not only is he a champion athlete but now he is taking on politics in his home country, the philippines. he's been in politics for a while but he's got bigger and better plans. don't miss his conversation. the gloves will be off.
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msnbc's chief legal correspondent ari melber is here with more. >> reporter: good morning from the msnbc newsroom. that's right, we've obtained a draft copy of this federal complaint. the complainant basically says he was fired in retaliation for the fact that he didn't want to go along with a witch hunt against hillary clinton. his lawsuit that i've reviewed also claims that he was retaliated against because of
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had his military service. that's his allegation. if it were true two violate a 1994 federal law that says that employers cannot obviously basically hold it against someone that they're going off to serve, in this case in the reserves in germany in the air force. that is the nub of it. as we reported throughout the date, trey gowdy, the chairman of that committee and long with other staff have vee mentally denied all of these allegations. >> we'll keep a very close watch on what happens here. here's a live look at las vegas where tomorrow democrats will hold their first debate. bernie sanders, hillary clinton, jim webb, martin o'malley and lincoln chaffee. we're expecting to hear from republican front-runner donald trump next hour who is speaking at a bipartisan no-labels event in new hampshire.
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good morning to the three of you. steve, set the stage for what's going to happen in this big debate in vegas. >> here we go, jose. we've had two republican debates so far, record audiences for them. now it is the democrats' turn. five candidates will be on the stage in vague. we can start with hillary clinton. as she heads into this first debate of the 2016 cycle, cbs news, a poll released over the weekend gives her a pretty commanding lead over bernie sanders, 56% to 32%. 24 points. gets a little tighter if joe biden were to enter the race. obviously that's a strong position for hillary clinton though if you had said six months ago bernie sanders was going to be over 30% against her, a lot of people wouldn't believe that. that speaks to the surprising success that sanders has had. in terms of what we can expect between clinton and sanders on
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that stage tomorrow night, from clinton's standpoint she's the front-runner. it is sort of like the first rule of medicine -- do no harm. she doesn't want to go on the attack, she doesn't want to take too many chances here. we've seen her take steps in the days leading up to the debate to inoculate herself against attacks from bernie sanders. she finally came out with a position against the keystone pipeline. she reversed herself. came out against the tpp. she also released a series of wall street reform plans all potentially in anticipation of attacks on the left from bernie sanders. now she'll have something to fire back with if he were to do that. from sanders' standpoint, it is interesting because this is his first chance to go on the same stage, be toe-to-toe sort of with hillary clinton. there is a question of can he and will he look presidential in that setting. how much attacking, how much contrasting does he want to do. other thing bernie sanders has to look out for, there are three other candidates on the stage. the question is specifically potentially martin o'malley, the former maryland governor, has
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not gotten any traction, has not gotten much attention. that's because bernie sanders has stolen his thunder. will martin o'malley not so much hillary clinton but will he go after bernie sanders tomorrow night? that's a dynamic to be looking out for as well. >> could be interesting to watch. turning to nbc's katy tur in manchester, new hampshire, what are we expecting next hour from you? >> donald trump is going to take the stage here at the no labels conference. it is sort of like the everybody get along conference. it is supposed to be bipartisan. it is supposed to build some bridges between the two parties. we are seeing candidates from both parties that will be here, including donald trump. so it will be interesting to see him because the whole hillary clinton, do not harm, she's in the lead. well, it is almost the exact opposite with the trump campaign. they will do as much harm as they want and say whatever they want. we do expect to see donald trump be pretty much himself here.
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we'll see if he's going to stand by that but it is going to be interesting to have him here. it is telling that he's going to be here and be somebody who's potentially going to try to bridge those gaps. at least on stage here. >> let's bring in nbc's hallie jackson who's on joe biden watch. good morning. are we going to be learning whether he'll make a decision one way or another soon? >> soon is the operative word in that sentence. does that mean the next couple of days? the next couple of weeks? his supporters want him to make a decision of course sooner rather than later. there are a couple of reasons for that. money, first of all. he's got to get that campaign finance organized if he's going to run and organization. but it sounds like biden simply hasn't made the decision yet whether he has the heart to run. whether he's got it in him to take on hillary clinton, bernie sanders, martin o'malley. he spent a weekend in home in wilmington with his family. he went to some of the grandkids' games. he spent a little time with them
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and this is part of his process in decision making here. seeing if he and his family are up for this. we actually had a producer out with him who asked him -- or at least started to ask the vice president what he was thinking about. listen. >> mr. vice president, everyone wants to know, are you -- >> get out of my way, will ya? >> get out of my way, will ya? i got to say, when you look at this race -- steve touched on this a little bit. the person who has the most to gain by joe biden not getting in of course is hillary clinton in that cbs national poll that's out. she's actually up 19 points if biden is in. 24 if he's not. >> how many candidates don't want to have that freedom to say to reporters, "get out of my way, with a ya?" >> shaq moved right out of the way and let the vice president pass. >> thank you all for being with me this morning. katy, who's speaking to cause all that ruckus behind you? >> lindsey graham is up there
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right now and he's making the crowd laugh quite a bit. he's doing what they would describe as a pretty good job on stage so far. i want to talk a little bit about president obama last night. if we have a second. he said that he doesn't believe that donald trump is going to be president but he's tapping into a certain amount of anger in the party. donald trump responded to that today in a typically donald trump fashion, speaking out that everybody said that he did better than the president on "60 minutes," and that he agrees. we'll leave you with that. >> thank you very much to the three of you. thank you so much. approximately 500 southwest airlines flights were delayed yesterday due to technology glitches with the airline's website, mobile app and computerized check-in system. 500 flights. the airline says the glitches have been resolved but southwest is still asking people to check in before arriving at the airport. nbc's tom costello has been following this story for us. good morning. things are getting better, right? >> reporter: i think we're off to a pretty normal start today. southwest airlines says they've
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addressed the computer issues that they had yesterday and that things today are operating normally. but as you mentioned, 500 flights delayed yesterday. you consider you got 150 or so people per flight, they were quicking talking about thousands of people who were delayed but lines at many of the biggest airports in the country especially those southwest airlines hubs extended for hours. people waiting, for example, at lax in 100-degree-plus temps. had to sit outside, stand outside for hours in sweltering conditions until the line was able to snake its way into the terminal where people could check in. they worked this issue through the night. they think that they've got it corrected now. here's a quick statement from southwest airlines they released a short time ago. they say, we have some additional work to do today to get bags delivered and some delayed or displaced customers into open seats. we have teams working as quickly as possible to accomplish that. but again, they say that the delays were limited to yesterday. today they seem to be operating normally. they are urging people, please
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p print your boarding passes at home, that went when you get to the airport you should be able to go straight to the gate and avoid the check-in counters. that's where you may have people still trying to deal with the delays for yesterday who are taking up the agents' time today. >> tom, a lot of folks are using their apps on their phones to have their boarding passes. that's also been resolved. right? a lot of people -- maybe they're not home and they don't have the opportunity to print them. >> reporter: no, that's exactly right. you can use your boarding pass on your phone and that will still allow you to bypass that check-in counter today and go straight to the plane. if you need to go to the check-in counter, that's fine. you can do that. what they're saying is any opportunity to avoid the line today. if there are residual lines, you should be able to do that and go straight to the gate. >> tom costello in washington, d.c., thank you. so much more ahead on this monday morning starting with
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what's being called the deadliest attack in turkey's modern history. death toll now up to 97 after two blasts disrupt a peace rallrally in ankara. richard engel is live in istanbul. later the u.s. considering is new strategy in syria amid growing concern about russia's involvement in the region. but first on a lighter note, president obama offered up some advice for future presidential hopeful kanye west over the weekend. take a listen to this. >> in case kanye's serious about this whole potus thing, or as he calls it, peezy, i do have advice for him. it's some stuff that i picked up on the way. first of all, you got to spend a lot of time dealing with some strange characters who behave like they're on a reality tv show. you got to be cool with that.
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the death toll now risen to 97 following a suicide bombing at a peace rally in turry over the weekend. hundreds more hurt in the attack in ankara. so far no one has claimed responsibility. the turkish authorities say they suspect either isis militants or maybe kurdish rebels. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is live in istanbul for us. good morning, richard. what more are you hearing from officials there today? >> reporter: the government says that the prime suspect is now isis. kurdish rebel group, the pkk, has issued condolences and solidarity with some of the victims. we don't know the names of the two suicide bombers the government says exploded suicide vests in ankara over the weekend. the government says it believes
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there were two men and that it is close to identifying them. 97 were killed, over 200 injured. today there were angry funerals for some of the victims. many people here are recusing the government of either not doing enough to stop these attacks or in some way being complicit in the attacks, turning a blind eye from isis which has been operating quite openly in turkey for the last several years. this is a very sensitive time and it is one of the reasons that these accusations are so charged right now, because there are supposed to be key elections taking place in just a few weeks and people believe that the government either allowed this attack to happen or maybe even had a direct role in it to gain some sort of political advantage. of course the government denies that completely. >> i mean this peace rally was specifically asking for peace with the kurds, including the pkk. >> reporter: there are a lot of overlapping politics happening
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right now. you had people coming out, a lot of them kurds, but also student activists, teachers, trade unions, to ask the government -- to demand that the government stop its war against the kurdish separatists. a war that they also believe the government is pursuing specifically for political gains ahead of the election. when they arrived in ankara and they came to the train station where the nearby the rally was supposed to take place, these two bombs exploded, one right after the other. if you ask the victims of this attack and their supporters, they say it was no accident that in the days ahead of a key election, people were getting together to ask for peace but also to denounce the government and mysteriously isis blew up -- or the government is saying most likely isis blew up two bombs among them. >> richard engel in istanbul, thank you very much for being with me. up next, a quick check on wall street.
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right now the dow, it's kind of flat, down one point. we'll check in with cnbc's mandy drury. plus, one of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing! also a political powerhouse in the philippines. manny pacqaoi's going to be with me live to talk about life outside the ring and a whole lot more. manny, we'll speak in just seconds right here on msnbc. sie. that's right, the quicksilver card from capital one. with quicksilver you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. so, let's try this again. what's in your wallet? ♪ everything kids touch during cold and flu season sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox.
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proposal pending final approve by the department of corrections would allow inmates convicted of assaults and robberies to work alongside firefighters. right now only minimum security prisoners with no history of violent crimes can participate. a coalition helicopter crashed in the afghan capital of kabul killing five and injuring five others. yesterday's crash was the result of a non-hostile mishap at camp resolute support, a nato military-led mission in afghanistan. the incident is under investigation. now to developments from wall street where stocks are flat, down three on this columbus day. cnbc's mandy drury is here with a market run down. >> we're flat as a pancake here. the bond market is closed for columbus day. we're coming off at least the benchmark s&p, the biggest weekly gain of the year. when you have a big gain like that you do expect a little bit of a breather. what we really saw and that was what we want to see continue is
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that energy and mining companies, commodity related companies last week really saw quite a lot of recovery from what some people thought was very oversold conditions and of course we've been watching crude and the stock market have been quite closely correlated. if crude and commodities can continue to recover, then that could be good for the overall market. but also what we're seeing is a bit of a mood switch. we've kind switched from, oh, my gosh, look at all the bad news to, well, maybe all the bad news is starting to be priced in. in fact the meeting at the international monetary fund over the weekend we saw federal bank officials urging the fed to just get on with itnd a go ahead with that rate hike in order to reduce uncertainty. which had a very interesting tone as well. >> mandy, thank you very much. manny pacqaoi is much more than one of the best boxers ever. he's also a major political figure in the philippines. he's been a member of the filipino house of representatives since 2010. now he's announcing that after
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his current term is over in 2016 he's going to run for the senate. manny pacqaoi joins me now from new york where he's being honored tomorrow by the asia society. manny, great seeing you. how are you? >> i'm fine. thank you. >> listen, what made you decide to get into politics in the first place? >> i decided to get into politics, involved in politics, so i can help more people in my country. >> and you're looking now to join the senate. what's different, what do you think you can accomplish there? >> i think i can accomplish and i can help more people when i get there and in that position. >> tell me why you've decided -- obviously helping people but public service takes a certain spirit of sacrifice. why did you decide -- why did you decide to go that route? >> i decided to enter the politics, but in the beginning before i don't like politics but
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when you realize that i need to be in that position so i can help more people and change the lives of people. that's my dream to help more people in my country. >> what are the big issues you think confront the filipino people that you want to help fight? >> the biggest issue, reduce tax and also the abilities of our farmers and also more -- provide more jobs for the people. >> you're in new york being awarded the asia game changer of the year. what does it mean for you? >> it means a lot. it is a prestigious award that i get to receive and it is an honor to me and my country. >> manny, i can't let you go without some boxing questions. you said recently you're still
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trying to decide who you'll take on and what could be your final fight. is it going to be a rematch with may weathe mayweather? >> i don't knowy et yet if thea rematch. but why not? i don't know my next fight but there's a couple bachers in lineup that my promote per give it to me. we are going to talk about tonight. >> what do you think the odds are of the rematch? do you feel good that that's something that should happen? i mean it was a big purse for all of you guys but it was also a pretty intense match. >> i think for me it's good to have rematch because my shoulder is fixed already and i didn't -- in the philippines, taking care of my operation, shoulder operation. so right now i can start training and, you know, focus on the next fight.
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>> hey, manny, when you do retire, do you have any -- do you have sights on further office in the philippines? i mean what's your future going to be? >> i don't know. but i want to be -- i want to be a senator and i'll say that, even if god willing, i can run more higher position. >> you think when you and i are talking in about five or ten years, you'll be president pacqaoi? is there a chance of that? >> you never know. it is in god's hands. one person can be a president. >> manny pacqaoi, i'm a real fan of yours, not only in the ring but off the ring and what you do for your people. i really appreciate you being on with me. >> thank you. thank you, sir. coming up, we're learning much more about "washington post" reporter jason rezaian's secret conviction reported by iranian media that include charges on spying. the latest from "the washington post" -- next. plus, rising sea levels are
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thanks for being with me. what's your reaction to this verdict? >> it is outrageous. it's not unexpected though. there's been nothing in iran's abominable treatment of jason these last 15 months that would have given us any hope for fairness or justice. and unfortunately, those bad expectations have proven out with this news today. >> i mean it just seems as though it was a fait accompli until they decide what they want. the judicial system goes along with what the political orders are. have you been in any communication with jason at all during this time? >> we've been unable to speak with him directly the entire time of his detention. the only visitors he's had have been periodic visits from his mother and his wife. >> what a horrible situation. what about the iranian government? are they -- is anybody talking to them? is anybody pressuring them? is anybody trying to get to the bottom of this? how could this happen! >> well, today jason's mother and his wife and his lawyer went to the court to try to get clarity on what had happened.
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they were turned away. they were told that a translator wasn't available and there would be no information that could be provided. just underscores how cruel this approach has been. the u.s. government continues to say publicly that it wants to see jason released. we believe that's important. we hope that the message is stated even more loudly and clearly. it is time for iran's political leaders to step in now and do the right thing. >> we don't really know even about the conviction, what they gave him, what they said. there was no evidence presented. we don't know any of this, right? >> we don't. the trial was in secret. we don't even really know what the charges against jason were, much less the evidence against him. it's been a sham throughout. it's just been an absolute travesty. the important thing now that this charade of a judicial process is moving toward completion is that iran's more senior officials step in. they have the power here to overturn a conviction. they have the power to pardon jason. they have the power to reach
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some kind of an agreement that could bring jason and other americans home and that's where i want to see the focus on those leaders to do the right thing. >> tell me a little bit about jason. >> he's a gregarious, fun-loving guy who grew up in california. didn't spend much time even thinking about iran even though his dad was an iranian immigrant until after he graduated from college. visited the country, fell in love with it, decided that practicing journalism, helping the two countries get to know one another better would be his life's calling. i went to visit him in june of 2014, six weeks before he was detained. he was at the top of his game. to see him and his wife arrested so soon thereafter and to see this nightmare begun has just been devastating. >> thank you for being with me. appreciate it. we're also following several new developments in syria this morning. the first one is russian president vladimir putin defending his country's military intervention in syria's civil
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war but says russia has no intention of unleashing a ground operation in the country. at the same time, president obama now says the u.s. had "pretty good intelligence" that russia intended to intervene militarily in syria before the president met with putin late last month. all of this happening as the u.s. announces it's ending its highly promoted pentagon program to train and arm syrian rebel forces to fight isis militants in the country. let me bring in gail from the council on foreign relations. good to see you. you have a new article out called white house against again weighing intervention options in syria. like what? >> i mean this is the question. this is an administration that really was elected to end wars and no the begin then. so the reluctance to enter into this syrian conflict was well documented and well noted for years. in fact $500 plan to arm the rebels went from sort of fiction and fantasy to fact and reality. very quickly.
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all within a month in the summer of 2014. yet the restrictions on that program were such that it was really hard for folks on the ground to actually put that plan into action. so now the question is what do you do with the covert program to help those fighting isis and also fighting the assad regime, and also what do you do to get people back to the negotiating table? >> lots of challenges. one of the biggest ones facing the obama administration as it weighs new different options now. >> i think the biggest one is the same one that it was in 2013 and 2014 which is can you guarantee me that this will not create more problems, that there won't be more and greater unintended consequences that come out from american intervention. when you talk to -- there are people in that defense one piece, former administration officials who say we just weren't thinking of strategically just how much of a refugee crisis this could create, just who you much regional instability this could
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create. i think for years the policy was containment until it was no longer able to be containment because the probably spilled well beyond syria's borders. now the question is what can you do that will actually show enough muscle and force, diplomatically and millitarily o get folks back to the negotiating table. >> this as the russians are now bombing areas that seem to be areas that are not really isis strongholds but rather possibly the people that we were looking for that maybe could make a difference in the fight against isis. >> there is enormous frustration. t"the guardian" has a great piee quoting modern rebels, what's actually going on, russia's actu -- isis a using russia's bombardment to take advantage of aleppo. there is no question that there
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is a sense that the russian bombardment is actually helping in some ways for isis to take greater territory. i think this really -- one administration official said the russian involvement is making us refocus on the reality of facts on the ground rather than what we would like it to be. i think you're going to see that reality getting even more grim as this conflict has now claimed more than 210,000 lives, more or less the population after richmond, virginia. >> millions who have been displaced and possibly forever. >> absolutely. >> gayle, thanks for being on. now on to a topic that's caught the attention from everyone from politicians to the pope -- climate change. a recent report by the risky business project finds that florida is the state most at risk for property flooding damage. by 2013 it estimates $69 billion worth of property damage could flood at high tide. that high tide isn't considered
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a risk. by by 2050 the damage is expected to climb up to $252 billion. joining me now, someone who knows firsthand the impact flooding has on the sunshine state, miami beach mayor phillip levine. you guys have been dealing with flooding and just in the recent weeks and months it's really increased. you're doing it at a very effective rate but it is still massive. >> no question about it. we've had historic high tide. these are tides that are beyond prediction but we're fighting back and we've made some tremendous progress in miami beach. we put together a $400 million plan. 60 pumps installed in our streets and we're actually raising the roads in our low-lying areas. the areas that we've actually gone into we've had tremendous positive effect. they've been completely dry. of course miami beach is a whole barrier island. we need to roll out our program and we need state and federal help. the big area that we are seeing flooding aren't our roads, they're actually state roads. i'm going up to tallahassee on friday to meet with the secretary of transportation.
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>> your city just hosted a climate change conference. how big of a concern is climate change for you? >> i think climate change is a concern not just for miami beach, it is a concern for all coastal citiesround the world. miami beach has been a model. president obama has sent down advisors, fema has been down, former vice president gore, senator nelson just spoke about our arcses on the senate floor a week or two ago. we're happy to be the model but we do need assistance to be this model. >> everybody just happened to be democrats but the fact is that this should be a bipartisan issue because regardless of what you think is behind it, we're seeing flooding and big flooding. >> i always say, when that ocean rises, it is not republican and it is not democrat. it just rises. >> give us an example of what massive flooding. on the state roads of indian
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beach. we don't have that much land but we love being so successful. we just need to control our growth. >> i love miami beach. it is the greatest, man. it is open 24/7. >> 100%. >> dotons of languages there. >> we're united nations. >> thanks for being with me. coming up, can you be jailed for being too poor to pay your traffic ticket? the supreme court says no but a new investigation shows it could be happening anyway. it's happening in parts of texas. those details and much more ahead right here on msnbc live. g that just tastes better. so fresh from the farm. delicious. perfect. only one egg with more great nutrition... like 4 times more vitamin d and 10 times more vitamin e. and 25% less saturated fat. only one egg good enough for my family. because why have ordinary when you can have the best. eggland's best. the only egg that gives you so much more:
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going to jail rather than receive the option of community service. buzzfeed says according to laws in texas, this is illegal. joining me now, one of the reporters on this investigation, buzzfeed's alex campbell. great to see you. how did this investigation come about? >> so it started when my colleague, kendall taggert, came across some data showing that a lots of people were going to jail for what are known as fine-only offenses, you know, traffic tickets, public intoxication, other sort of petty charges where you're not actually supposed to go to jail. we kind of were surprised because it is sort of a last resort for if you haven't paid your traffic ticket. it is only supposed to be if you have the money and you're sort of willfully not doing -- not paying or if you are too poor, you're sort of willfully ignoring community service. >> alex, because normally if you do have a slew of unpaid tickets, unless you're of course in the united nations where you don't have to pay those
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tickets -- parking tickets, but if you're just a regular person and you get a slew of tickets and you don't pay them and you're poor, normally how do you deal with that? >> normally the judge has to look into your finances and find out can you actually pay this. what kind of job do you have, is it something that you can actually afford. and if you can't afford it, the judge has to offer you community service as an alternative. so that you don't get locked up. what we found is that in el paso and several other courts that we looked into, there is no evidence that they're doing this, that they're offering alternatives or looking into whether someone can afford their tickets. >> so does anybody know this? el paso, which, by the way, is 80%-plus hispanic. doesn't anybody know about this? how can this be happening? >> we were surprised that it hadn't been written about before. from what we've heard in the reaction to the story is that a lot of people there know somebody who has gone to jail for unpaid tickets but they
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maybe didn't realize that they were supposed to be these checks against putting people who are too poor to pay in jail. >> alex, let's talk to folks that are in el paso or anywhere else and maybe are going to be dealing with this issue. what can people do if they cannot pay the tickets and they're facing possibly going to jail? what are their rights? what can they ask for? >> they have a right to a lawyer. what was amaze ig to us was in these courts where this is happening, you don't get a public defender. so a lot of people figure well i can't afford my tickets so how could i afford a lawyer. lawyers are actually -- at times can be as cheap as $50 per ticket. they can do a whole number of things to sort of help you in that situation. >> of course $50 a ticket is if you have $50. if you're living beyond -- just you can't -- you don't have any extra money. $50 is a lot of money. >> that's absolutely right. many people just have to go there without a lawyer.
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in that case you still -- you still should be able to demand that the judge look into your finances and that if you are too poor that you get some kind of opportunity to do community service. that can be -- >> you could ask for a court-appointed lawyer. right? you can't ask for one? >> you can ask for one. the problem is in these courts, there isn't really any kind of apparatus set up for that. so that can be very tricky in these traffic courts. >> the big take-away is, if you cannot afford to pay these tickets and you have a lots of them, community service is something that should be acceptable to you and you have to insist on that and if you can get a lawyer and if not ask for one. but do not let this happen. thank you, alex. thank you, buzzfeed, for this investigative piece. in oregon this morning, students returning to class at
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rem. don't stop believing. newt gingrich asked him to stop playing it. rush, 2010. the band hit senator rand paul asking him to stop quoting their lir rishgs ayrics at victory ra campaign ads. and sarah palin was asked to stop playing "who says you can't go home" at rallies. in 2008 the swedish pop group abba wanted john mccain to stop playing their song. let's play some celia cruz music. tomorrow the soap opera of her life starts on telemundo, 8:00 p.m. eastern time. that wraps up the hour on msnbc live. thank you for the privilege of your time. tamron hall is is up next. celia, take us away. we'll see you tomorrow. ♪
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benghazi bombshell. the day before the first democratic presidential debate, an investigator on the benghazi committee says he was fired for not targeting hillary clinton. what impact it could have on the debate. plus, what president obama is saying about clinton and her private e-mail server. and, the clock is ticking. some republicans say congressman paul ryan has the next 24 to 48 hours to decide if he'll become the next house speaker. plus this -- >> put your hands behind your back! >> the investigation into why police tazed a city councilman in the same city where san bra bland was found dead in her jail cell. we'll get a live report from texas. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. developing now, the hillary clinton camp is calling


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